As part of our regular monthly self-publishing Watchdog series, our official ALLi Watchdog Giacomo Giammatteo turns the spotlight on Bookbaby and investigates what this well-known service provider's recent changes mean to indie authors wishing to use its distribution services.
We covered a lot of aggregators in the “Choosing a Self-Publishing Service” book, released earlier this year, and we documented the pros and cons of each service. Bookbaby was one of the providers, and we included details of their paid and free services.
During the past few months, Bookbaby has been busy. They have added several new channels and beefed up their services. I spent about an hour on the phone with Steven Spatz, Bookbaby’s newly appointed president. We discussed where Bookbaby is headed, and I also took time to check out the new features of the site and communicated with some existing customers via email. I’ve included results below.
The list chart below outlines Bookbaby’s services. In this post, we’re only going to cover ebook distribution, but I wanted you to know what other options they had:
- ebook publishing and conversion
- ebook distribution
- bookshop
- ebook cover design
- BookPromo
- custom-printed books
- website hosting for authors
- editing services
- book scanning services
- ebook press releases
And just so everyone knows—I use Bookbaby as one of my distributors. I use their free service.
Factors For Consideration
- Cost
- Ease of upload•
- Conversion quality
- Conversion costs
- Sales reporting
- Payments
- Channels
- Royalties
- Change costs
- Speed of changes
- Pre-orders
- Customer service
- ISBNs
Cost
Bookbaby offers several levels of service: free, and two levels of paid service. Everything I discuss here will be part of the free offering. For the paid services you can check the website and see the differences.
Ease of Upload
I have only tested this with a validated epub, but assuming you have that, Bookbaby is very easy to use. It took me less than ten minutes to upload a book.
Conversion Quality and Cost
As I said, I don’t use the conversion offering, but with Bookbaby it does cost money. If you don’t have mobi and epub files ready, you’ll have to pay for conversion. Bookbaby offers a $99 program that includes conversion and provides a few other benefits as well.
Sales Reporting
Sales reporting is straightforward and easy to use.
Payments
Payments are made monthly through direct deposit, PayPal, or check.
Channels
Bookbaby has great reach and will get your books into the following channels:
- Amazon
- B&N
- Apple
- Kobo
- Copia
- Gardners
- Baker & Taylor
- E–Sentral
- Scribd
- Flipkart
- Oyster
- Ciando eBooks
Royalties
For the free option, you get 60% on all of the retailers, except the following:
- B&N pays 42.5% from 99c – 9.99.
- Baker & Taylor = 51%.
- Gardners = 51%.
- Kobo = 60% in US, CA, UK, AUS. For all other territories – 38%.
Change Costs
eBook Content Changes
For spelling and/or minor grammar fixes for your previously submitted eBook, please contact us with the changes you would like to make. You may make multiple changes in a single set of corrections. Includes reconversion and redelivery to all eBook Retailers.
$50: 1–10 changes
$75: 11–25 changes
$100: 26–50 changes
$150 per hour: 51+ changes
Pricing and Metadata Changes
For changes to your eBook’s long and short descriptions, pricing, author bio, genre, and/or keywords, please contact us with the changes you would like to make. Includes redelivery to all retail partners.
Free: $25 every change
Standard: 1 free change
($25 each subsequent)
Premium: 1 free change/year
($25 each subsequent)
Speed of Changes
Bookbaby seems to be behind in the speed of processing changes. I’m saying this not from personal experience, but from talking to a half a dozen people who related their experience to me. If you have a different example, please let me know.
Pre-Orders
Bookbaby does not offer pre-orders at this time.
Customer Service
I have had mixed results with customer service. If you opt for the paid model and are eligible for phone support, it’s great. If you are restricted to email support it seems to be hit and miss.
ISBNs
Bookbaby will sell you an ISBN for $19.
Extras
Bookbaby has put together several unique offerings for authors and they provide them free. A few are worth taking a closer look.
Bookshop
This is a chance to sell your book direct to customers. You can check out the details here.
BookPromo™
BookPromo™ is a free bundle of promotional services that help BookBaby authors spread the word about their new books. The BookPromo™ bundle includes guaranteed book reviews, promotion opportunities, discounts on PR and book trailers and much more.
What’s Included
- ebook discovery placements with Goodreads and Noise Trade
- guaranteed book reviews with Readers’ Favorite and Story Cartel
- promotion through PR Newswire, Author Marketing Club, and WriterCube
- discounts for PR and book trailers
- exclusive guide: Ultimate Social Media Marketing for Authors
I’ve tried several of these services and have been pleased with the results. During my discussion with Steven Spatz he talked at length about the Bookbaby philosophy and how they are working toward helping authors achieve their goals. To that end, Bookbaby is working on quite a few new options that will help. Keep an eye open for new developments.
Bottom Line
I think Bookbaby offers a lot to authors. They have a few unique channels and they have a couple of interesting and useful extra services that are free. My biggest problem with them is that they charge for changes.
I’ll admit this is a pet peeve of mine, and some of you might not mind it. But once you have ten books or more for sale, and you decide you want to make a change to your back matter. Or you want to add links to a new book in each of your past books. Or if you simply want to change prices, you’ll face quite a few charges. When that happens, you will mind.
My Suggestion
At this point, I would find it difficult to recommend Bookbaby as your primary distributor, mostly because of the cost of making changes. Both Smashwords and Draft2Digital offer changes for free. In addition, both Smashwords and Draft2Digital have better deals at B&N.
I would, however, recommend signing up for Bookbaby to gain access to a few channels not available at either of those other distributors: Copia, Gardners, Baker & Taylor, and Ciando. In addition, you will be able to take advantage of the BookPromo offering from Bookbaby. That alone makes it worthwhile.
Based on my talk with Steve, I believe Bookbaby will be making changes to benefit authors, and I’m looking forward to what they have to offer.
Whatever you do, steer clear of bookbaby. They will promise you the world but not deliver. I could write an entire book on reasons not to use bookbaby. They are the middle man which means you will make nothing on your book. They take it all. They are in control of your book. Amazon, Barnes and Noble and all other retailers have to order through them, pay them, take their cut and then the rest is yours.
So many issues with this company. They are not transparent in their business operations.
Once I submitted my manuscript that took me 2 years to write, they returned the final product complete with the cover design in 2 days. How much thought could have possibly went in to the internal formatting, cover design and overall book in 2 days? Along with the final product was a list of charges for any changes you wanted to make to their product.
With my first book, I went through KDP (Amazon). I had amazing service from start to finish and a professional product. I was thrilled. They only charged me $2.19 for my author copies to take to book signing events. Bookbaby wanted $9.50 per author copy. Again, none of this was disclosed during initial conversations.
I am distraught. The process from beginning to end has been a nightmare. You are not able to ever speak to the cover designer or the internal formatter for your book. You can only communicate by email. Very non-personal.
Do yourself a favor and go through KDP (Amazon). You will get better service and be more in control of your book for 1/2 the cost as bookbaby.
Do you research. I did not do a complete research. The reviews out there on different platforms are clear.
Stay away. Go with KDP. You will be happy.
Sincerely,
Vince Shifflett
I’ve used BookBaby for 7 books since 2019. (Edits are done before the manuscripts go to BookBaby. I do my own text formatting and covers.) The quality of the printed books is superb, and attention is given to packing, so there’s never a scratch or blunted corner. I’ve had only one glitch in all this time, and that was a cover template the wrong size, which was fixed quickly. BookBaby support dealt with Amazon for me in Nov. 2021 when books in my YA series were displayed with the wrong series order, and BookBaby got that fixed ( I had tried for months to get Amazon to correct that, with no luck). I’ve had no problems with royalty checks coming promptly. My experience has been 5 stars. It seems odd to me that your review didn’t mention that BookBaby is one of the very few such companies with its own press and bindery.
Have things improved with Bookbaby? Most of the comments seem dated. Is the price worth the services? Thank you all.
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Read through your review of Bookbaby and it seems a bit dated. Was surprised to learn in your review that customers have to pay extra if they actually want to talk to a live person rather than just wait for emails from “support”. I used them in the past withut significant problems, and agree its expensive . This time, I have had a terrible experience with the assigned “editor” who only had a name link of discmaker and was not helpful, ignoring a simple basic concept such as “customer service”. I was almost certain this editor wasn’t a human but a “bot”. Apparently that got the person mad and spent page after page sending me detailed summaries of my previous requests for help and additional bills to correct a typo their own staff mistakenly added. That just proved once again it is a bot, not a customer service oriented human. What also is indicative of the decline in the bookbaby service was a note that this support editor was the 3rd one assigned. I will be happy to finally, someday, get through with them and receive the book , but beware to anyone who falls victim to their service.
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Thank you for all that information, I’m researching ALL my options for publishing my book,and I’ve much to consider. I still have approx.4-5 mths. before I’m done writing my manuscript. I’m trying not to make any decisions without considering all of the pros and cons. I’ll look for more articles by you in the future. Thanks again … C.P.
I used BB only for eBook conversion, book printing, and distribution, which is to say I designed the cover and the page layouts myself, and hired an editor myself.
I published 3 books with BB, and was very pleased with them for all 3. I wrote 2 reviews of them on TrustPilot. The TrustPilot webpage begins with my review of a check printing service, so do not mistake it for my reviews of BB, which are the next 2 that follow:
https://www.trustpilot.com/users/50f186d600006400012d2897
Hi – I found your review very informative! A major appeal for using BB is the one stop shopping aspect using one of their different packages available. The negative comments of others is however alarming; but were written a few years ago. Am wondering has BB improved on their services, etc.? Is there a more up to date review. As a newbie, I am also concerned on having additional charges for changes. Am not clear on the implications of using another company like D2D for other services; Is D2D just for eBooks? Am also considering BBs editing; don’t know how good their quality is. As you can see I have many questions about BB and self-publishing; any good resources where I can more informed. Thank you Giacomo for your excellent piece.
Thank you for the information you have provided. I have found it both interesting & useful, as a self published author. Book Baby email information to me, & i have been very impressed with everything i see..
Publishing seems to be a minefield for unsuspecting new authors, & it it just too easy to fall prey to the unscrupulous publishers; believe me i know!!
Agreed. So what are you doing with your next book and why?
You make no mention of the contract provisions. Is this a standard contract for the industry? My question is about 10. Modification, Termination and Effect of Termination: paragraph (b) In the event that you shall materially breach this Agreement, including by any failure to pay any amounts owed to BookBaby as a consequence of this agreement, including but not limited to Subscription Fees, then, in any such event, BookBaby shall have the right upon notice in writing to You to terminate the Term hereof with immediate effect. No election by BookBaby to waive its right of termination in any particular instance, shall constitute a waiver of BookBaby’s rights to do so in any other instance.
My concern is with the section dealing with “Subscription Fees.” Subscriptions to what? Your commenters have identified a number of issues regarding royalty payments. But this is separate money issue. I am not interested in getting into a situation of negative cash flow for something that has no controls. This is my first time submitting a book anywhere, so am not familiar with standard practices. Should I be concerned about “Subsciption Fees?”
Bookbaby isn’t so great. I was assured by a customer representative, prior to having my book printed, that they would contact me prior to printing if anything looked off. They printed my book with distorted spreads. When I contacted them they said it’s what happens with perfect binding. When I stated I contacted customer support prior to ordering my book and was told I would be notified if there were any issues, I was then told that they only contacted customers about technical issues. They told me there was no resolution to the issue because they didn’t make any mistakes. I lost a good amount of money going through Bookbaby. My advice is find another company.
Any recommendations?
Seems you got burned! Yes, bookbaby has morbid faults, and number 1 is they NEVER acknowledge their own sloppy work.
I am having a problem with their printing of my children’s picture books. They did a beautiful job with the design but they are getting waves when binding the book and traces of glue on opening pages!
This is very upsetting because they should examine the books prior to shipping to me and the customers!
I also think that they do not pay all of the royalties. They are also very expensive. you pay $20 for a book and only get $1.20 in royalties seem unrealistic! Help!!!
Can you recommend a better company and one who has quality production in assembling the books
sometimes they do a beautiful job but are inconsistent.
Thank you
BOOK BABY DOES NOT PAY ROYALTIES! i released my book around the Christmas holidays and sold it to quite a few friends and family members. I saw no royalties! So I called them and they demanded that I tell THEM the sales order number and sales date before they would pay me!!! That is THEIR job not mine to keep track of sales. Then just recently my sales rank on Amazon jumped over million and this was right after I did a,radio interview and they claimed I had no sales. In addition I have launched massive Facebook ad campaigns and gained over 1,000 link clicks and they say no sales have happened. They appear to be lying cheating thieves!!!
I am a recent author of a first book and have questioned how authors are able to verify book sales, and, therefore, royalties. It appears that it is a business that depends on the publisher’s honesty with no real way to challenge there results. An author should have the right to figures from those retailers selling the books such as Amazon, as an honesty check!
I used BookBaby to print my first book last year and I saved a lot of time and aggravation by doing my own editing, book cover design and formatting.
The book was rejected several times when I tried to upload it but that was because the pictures in it had a shadow affect around each one which did something to the program. When that was corrected, everything went smoothly and the books came out gorgeous! Quality was very good. The hardest part was trying to get a hold of anyone there. Although you’re assigned a helper, try getting a hold of them when you have a question. Also, I know I sold a lot more books through Amazon and there’s no way to see their accounting to know if it’s correct. I sold more on my own to my clients direct and they do run specials from time to time where they give you extra copies during some promos. Just wrote my 2nd book and debating if I go back.
On the surface Bookbaby looks good. Great website, good offers. I took them up on their Complete Publishing Package (book formatting, cover design, distribution etc.).
My experience has not been positive. Frustrating and disappointing best characterize how I have felt throughout most it. There are many reasons, but I’ll say the three big ones:
1. Sloppy work. Whether it was book/ebook formatting or cover design or getting the Amazon page set up — endless mistakes. You need to have an amazing eye for detail yourself so that you catch all the mistakes that are made. Some of the mistakes are very obvious, the kind that anybody who double-checks their own work would spot, but many of them are small and subtle so you have to look very closely at everything you receive.
2. Inefficient processes that slows everything down. I was given an initial estimate of six weeks and it turned into 3.5 months. (Even today, as I write this, I’m waiting on a response to an email I sent 10 days ago. Despite two follow up email prompts, I’ve not received a response to a number of the issues I raised in it.)
Another example, the cover design process is particularly laborious and took a very long time. The first reason is the “3 business day” turn around time. Add a weekend in (which often happens), and it’s 5 days. (My designer almost always waited the maximum time before returning a proof.) The second reason is you cannot communicate freely with the designer. The designer communicates to you through a third-party service rep (if you hear from the designer at all). The third reason is that the designer can only send you one proof at a time. So let’s say there are a few different ideas or options that could be done, they can only show you one at a time. Then you reject or modify that option, then wait 3-5 more days for something to come back, then comment on that, wait 3-5 days for something to come back (repeat ad nauseam).
To make things worse, my designer had a habit of making changes I did not ask for and not making some of the changes I did ask for, which then extended the design process even further.
This might not be a problem if you’re not fussed about good design or communicating freely with your designer (which is what good co-creation requires), but if you do care, Bookbaby’s design process is unbelievably inefficient.
3. Experience with staff is inconsistent – hot and cold. Some of the service representatives that I contacted were good, no question: prompt and efficient in their replies. But another of Bookbaby’s quirks is that you you never know who you’re going to get — they do not assign one service rep to your case — it’s a crapshot who will respond to you. And they are not all of equal caliber.
The ‘technicians’ who did the actual work on my book…well I can’t speak positively because of #1 above (sloppy work). At times it felt like I was working with amateurs not professionals. So many mistakes. Even today I have a number of items I need to send them about my Amazon page, where text was just thrown up, with no regard for proper paragraph spacing and, in places, not even punctuation between sentences. Can’t wait to wait 10 days for that to be fixed. 😐
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I could go on and list more issues that I have with there work. I will Spare you the details.
Recommendation: look elsewhere
Thank you. This is very helpful. Your detailed review and the one directly below confirm my suspicions based on my initial contacts with this company. You just saved me a ton of time with your one review. Thank you
I suggest you look at Bookbaby again in early 2019.
They are looking like a typical Author scam setup
$1,000 for 50 normal colour books, $78 for one book +$31 to ship to Switzerland where I live!
I had published an e-book through Bookbaby. I just so happen to glance at my project detail page and noticed that my billing information was incorrect. It went from being correct one minute, then months later, incorrect The name was correct but the street address, City, and State were incorrect. I questioned Bookbaby about this since they do have excess to my account and they claimed they don’t know how that happened. I began to wonder if my royalties were going to that address.
Used BookBaby. No real input after the sale. Changes are costly. Doesn’t seem like they have a working relationship with retail partners, such as; Barnes and Noble or Books A Million to fix issues. Their job is “to make sure that the files meet standards for print and distribution”, when we questioned why standard copyright language was not in the book. Would not recommend for first time Authors.
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Been There, Done That by Bonita Evans Ph.D.
Been There, Done That, A Review
by Dr. Bonita Evans, Ph.D.
BookBaby did a fantastic job on my book. As a Professor, world traveler and Educated at college level by the British, I expected those working on my book to be as professional as I am. Well, BookBaby met all my demands, and produced an excellent book. This was not an easy task because the book has comments in Swahili, French, German and Arabic. This meant, that they had to pay close attention to any insights I had to provide. Well, they did an excellent job. It took me two years to get this book to a publishable state because many publishers tried to make corrections to languages used, which they did not understand and ruined the manuscript. Additionally, it was very difficult to make some publishers understand that an autobiography cannot skip any events, because they lead to the next, and without cohesive rhythm, it is very difficult to maintain continuity. If you think you can remove a portion of the manuscript–particularly in an autobiography, and still make sense,you are off track and should be writing fiction. Worse yet, it becomes even more impossible when the author has a four-year degree in Professional Writing under the British system. However, BookBaby excelled in all these tasks. I am also grateful to them for improving the cover, by changing to glossy as opposed to mat, which enhanced the cover’s overall attraction.
Prior to coming to Book Baby, I had WASTED nearly two years working with self publishers who were not nearly as adept as they are at Book Baby. Save yourself two years of frustration, Go to Book Baby first.
Dr. Bonita D. Evans, Ph.D.
Perhaps you received special treatment and excellent service because of your background and the title behind your name. Many less distinguished people report less than stellar service.
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There are definitely lots of changes BookBaby is going to have to make in order to be a more viable distributor for indies. I’m glad I’ve put up a title to give them a whirl, but unless they get rid of some of their fees I won’t offer any other titles through them.
$25 to change the book’s description? Ridiculous. If it was a paid service where they analyzed the current description and rewrote it for the author, I’d be happy to pay for that. But not for the privilege of copying-and-pasting my own work.
Same with the other fees. $25 to upload new ready-to-deploy files? Not cool.
If they’re going to play along with KDP and Kobo and such, they’re going to have to raise their game and drop fees like this.
I placed my book with Bookbaby. Not happy. The charges for price changes are ridiculous; no one else charges. Sales reports are way behind. My most recent sales shown are from March. I have no idea how my sales are going. I dropped the price for Kobo for a sales promo and now Kindle won’t let me change my sales price back to 2.99 because the Kobo is at .99. I contacted Bookbaby and they want $25 to change the Kobo price. I asked how to get out of Bookbaby and the rep on the phone happily emailed me the instructions. I followed them and never got a response. At uPublushU I met a BB rep and told him about my issues. He advised me to stick with Kindle.
Marianne: I understand your frustration. It’s why I mention in the article that I can’t at this time recommend BB as the primary distributor. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t worth considering for other things. Example: you could use Smashwords or Draft2Digital (both free) to access major markets. Both of them respond quickly and in most cases price changes are reflected the same day. Kobo has been erratic of late, but with the two I mentioned it’s pretty fast. You could still use Bookbaby, though, for their unique channels like Ciando, Copia, eSentral, etc. And there are some other strategic promotional opportunities you can take advantage of, which I’ll cover in a future post.
As to the free comment, Bookbaby isn’t the only one who charges for changes; in fact, most of the distributors charge for changes. Smashwords and D2D seem to be the exceptions.
But BB also deserves some leeway. Steven Spatz, the new president, has only been on board in this role since August. He has inherited policies that he did not implement. Let’s give him a chance to change things.
Thanks for this detailed look into Bookbaby. They’ve been on my radar since I saw that at the Philly Writer’s Conference a couple years ago. Back then, I was extremely disappointed that the self-publishing “class” they taught was mostly a push to sell their services rather than to actually educate people on self-publishing. The extra channels and the book promo might make me check into them a bit more, though.
Hi, Samantha. I think we’ll see more improvements to Bookbaby in the short term. Steve Spatz, the new president, seems geared toward helping authors achieve better sales through improved distribution and marketing services. I’m still not fond of the paid services for any distributor unless you’re getting a lot in return, but Bookbaby’s free service is worth looking into.